Talk:Dofus Wiki

The main page is now protected. Only registered users can edit it, and it cannot be moved. Hopefully this will reduce the amount of random vandalism. - Dashiva (talk 15:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Dofus Depression
Hehe, Rushu has gone into the video game equivalent of the Great Depression. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer:

F2Ps cant get a profession above level 30, so gathering is slow, and such crafting professions take longer to gain the resources. Also crafting professions can't get up to a level high enough to make anything costly, or become a magus.

Equipment hunting isn't worth as much anymore, unless you're hunting a Gelano. This is because before if you got, for example, a 1/1 prespic lining it was worth next to nothing. Now, if you get a 1/1 lining, you get someone to mage it so its higher, so there are more better linings, so the price goes down. Even the ones that have more stats that is normally possible aren't worth as much as a perfect lining was before the magus system.

I find the only way to stay ahead and make some money is to make a lumberjack, and then make some sort of weapon, eg staffs, hammers, etc. At level 20 you can usually make something from cheap resources that sells for about 200k each to NPC's, who do not change prices according to demand. When you make 100 of them, its a fair bit. Although F2P's can use this, it will be slow because their gethering professions can't get to a high level...

Of course, hunting resources that exchange for characteristic scrolls is still entirely worth it. Gobbal horns are still as expensive as ever, and although prespic peaks are not as much as when the F2P's were not allowed in, they are still quite expensive. This is because there are more players, so there are more people that want them. This is good if you can't be bothered levelling a profession.

Bagel Deadly-Bagel (Talk)

Consistency
i frequently see different spell descriptions that lack certain information. others add build-related info. im not really an active member but i suggest there should be some sort of general way that spell pages should be written.

i recommend having two lists, similar to what we have now - one with the icon, class, etc, that should include info that doesnt change at different spell levels, another with the spell levels and info that changes (on all spells. if panda spells have a 1/100 fail rate on all levels, i suggest we do put that on the spell levels list instead of making an exception for panda spells) 87.69.102.49 10:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC) im not sure if theres a need for making the list of non-constant spell description so small, unless im using a really large resolution. if we have room for two lines of text, we can use "Critical(newline)Hit" instead of making it so short. im pretty sure wikipedia has a convincing argument to whether or not wikis should be using slang somewhere, but i cant find it (like lvl. AP, unlike lvl, is actually used by the actual game). i don't know if making a similar description for monster spells is a good idea, because most people are interested in the damage they actually do, not the base damage. i hope you dont take this as criticism, i appreciate your work. 80.178.182.81 14:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your concern, currently User:Rifter is working on improving the spell pages he has started with the monster spells, i will point him out your concern so he takes note of it.--Cizagna (Talk) 22:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this to me :)
 * And good point. I think it would look best if monster spells had general info + propbox + spellbox(4), like Irritation, while class spells had spellbox on top of it, like User:Rifter/BrambleExample.
 * Actually what would be even more useful is adding AOE information, like in Slow Down Arrow, which is doable even if it comes to monster spells, but that's job for later.
 * To sum up, i suggest:
 * class spells: Template:Spellbox, Template:Propbox, Template:Spellbox4
 * monster/summon spells Template:Propbox, Template:Spellbox4
 * What do you think? --Rifter 15:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * those look great. my suggestion involved putting all the constants in the spell box (not per spell, but what doesnt change on all spells, just making myself clear), making the prop box a part of the spell box.
 * First of all - it's not slang, theese are shortcuts :) All factors - putting constant attributes out of spellbox, making two lines for crit hit/fail, changing names into attributes were made to limit size of the spellbox table. While tables may look small for some examples you have seen, don't forget there are spells with much longer descriptions of effects, like Nae Spectral Illusion, or taking it to extreme, Risky Opening. There's where you see real point in making spellbox as short as possible. Moreover, if there is too much info in the table, it's much harder to read. Take look at some old examples - there are tons of digits/images flying around making it certailny unpleasant to read. Here you can read discussion about the project mainly concerning the formatting data. On top of the page there are links to older templates and more examples from development stage As for base and actual damage - entering actual damage information is room for people that actually experiment with 0% resists, take notes and put the information (or not) on wiki. However, it might be good to put some kind of space in each monster spell page asking people to put information on actual damage. --Rifter 18:15, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Helpful Ideas
i think that maybe to show how worth while it is to be a member of dofus, u should make everyone a member for like a week or something. This way they will discover the awesomeness that comes with being a member

Just a thought, but maybe there should be a site on Dofus slang. It took me ages before I worked out what half the language was, and I had 2 ask about the rest. Even if someone could just create the site on the homepage I would edit it. I created an account but it still wont let me edit it. How do i register? --Deadly-Bagel

Someone : it would also be helpful to have a page on the slash commands - like grouptalk, send message, and so forth. Personally, I haven't found them anywhere, and I'm sure there are some that I'm missing.


 * you're right there is one page for that Here. --Falorn 13:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

You know, we really could do with an item category: "Items with no known use". For stuff like boar snouts and prespic paws. --Tatsujin-d 23:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The link to the main Dofus website on the article for this talk page should point to www.dofus.com, not www1.dofus.com. www1 refers to the first www server out of a server farm the Dofus people have set up; forcing people to the first server unfairly pounds that server instead of distributing the load evenly as would otherwise happen. --64.89.150.87 02:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I not skill full on this subject, but previusly it was www1.dofus.com as there was no other link, now it has www.dofus.com as the main gate way, but all the other pages are manage in www1.dofus.com/lenguage/corresponding pages so for me the work load is still the same as it directs you to the same server. --Cizagna (Talk) 17:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

New Version 1.14
Since the amak servers are really really getting pounded can anyone torrent out the new client? or setup a DL link.... contact me on aim bayerischemotor5 if u need any help also i just registered so i can follow this


 * I didn't have any problems getting the client from the usual place. --TaviRider 20:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I didn't have any problems either. It's just 75mb. I don't see a reason to set up a torrent file MiiQ 10:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * the first few hours it was out no one was able to DL it, at least here in the eastern usa..looks like all is well now....


 * I had trouble finding the right one, I found one that was 20mb, then one that was 60, then the one that worked. I don't think the other two downloads were actually from Ankama because the layout of the page was different to every other page by Ankama...

Vandalism reporting
hey why is it that you guys allways fix the stuff but it allways comes back eva think if u talk to the guy it will stop hmm?


 * Sadly, there's no real good way to converse about these things in real time when you're dealing with anonymous users (the primary culprits). Additionally, hiding behind an IP address makes people more likely to behave irresponsibly because of their anonymity. They don't have to face up to the consequences of their actions and therefore they aren't bound by the normal sense of shame that would otherwise (hopefully) keep them acting like reasonably civilized mammals. BadMrMojo 23:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I've created a new page for reporting wiki vandalism at Dofus: Requests for Investigation (Shortcut: RFI). Now we can keep vandalism issues off main's talk page and at place we can all watch. Everon 01:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Main Page formatting
Who is doing that?its getting annoying...

I'm not impressed by the formatting change done by 70.181.47.202 at 00:53, 29 Dec 2005. I'm assuming it's a typo, and putting this note up to see if people think it should be changed back. Eldritchreality
 * Done and done. - Dashiva 10:59, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I'm thinking we should do something about the main page. Instead of just one big list, break it up into sections. Then list the sections side by side to avoid having to scroll down the whole list to find what you're looking for. - Dashiva 20:45, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

That doesn't convince me, at the moment although theres a lot of scrolling it does allow you to see a lot of the wiki's content in one go. If you hide it in another layer of menus people new to the wiki have to go through much more trouble before they find their way around. Eldritchreality 08:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * You don't seem to understand. It already is hidden in a layer of menus, that's the problem we're going to remove. The payment page has nothing to do with parchments, so they should not be in the same list. - Dashiva 11:32, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * My apologies, I misunderstood you. Eldritchreality 06:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I think that weapons should be removed because equipment is a good generalization of all gear, and kamas should be moved into that section because it has more to do with items than coordinates lol. Also Forgetfulness Potions should just be potions which would bring up a list of different types of potions.


 * If you want to move something, just do it. The current main page is just a patchwork, there's no clear purpose behind it. And sign your talk page comments already. - Dashiva 07:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Why don't we do something like that on the main page?

 … … … … … …
 * Items
 * Inventory [ Weapons and Armor; Item Sets; Pets; Scrolls and Potions; Resources ]
 * Getting Items [ Item Drops; Crafting; Markets ]
 * It would make list much shorter I think. Not doing it right now cause (1) don't like to mess on something important (which the homepage sure is) without the permission of the owner; and (2) doing this will require building of strict content structure (which I cannot see here). — Aki-kun 13:17 (GMT+2), February 28, 2006

hey yall wats with the "P" thing? did some1 do this on purpose? its says the main page is redirected fron "p"-IalexI

I've put together a proposed layout for the main page at Main Page/Everon. It's modified from Wikipedia's main page layout. It's not done, and I don't mind people contributing to it as well. More information on its talk page. Everon 03:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Would be nice if that stub box was thinner. It is pushing the main content way over. -Sihren
 * Wondering is this proyect still on? or it should be dimiss i don't see any more changes, would it be implemented?. --Cizagna 19:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

PVP Guides
I think it would be interesting if there would be a section with guides for how a certain class or build could be defeated, it could be like the strategy section some monsters have, or specific guides for each class vs each class.

I'd be more then willing to help on the sram guides :P--DameDatte 08:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Game controls
I see no section for game controls - should there be one? It would include how to move about the map, add points to your stats, boost spells, battling, chatting, adding friends, etc. Any objections? Phaed
 * Second thoughts, Battle actually isn't necessary, the description included in that section is clear enough, imo. Phaed

HELP
ok,i need help,ya' know the new dofus thing?you have to re-dowload it?yeah well i can't get back onto dofus webstie..HELP!!! >.<


 * I cant get on either i keep getting error cant locate laguage file


 * As the server message says pretty clearly, you have to download the new client. - Dashiva 03:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

This is not about how we can make this any bettee i just want to say that Dofus is THE BEST MMO i have ever played. I will never stop playing this game EVER. --70.57.6.45 23:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)Gangsta-B---70.57.6.45 23:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I can't find the correct page (New to wiki) but where are the drop rates? (I have no idea how to sign my name or do the time, Here's hoping it is automatic)

--HELP ON LANGUAGE FILE ERROR--

Everytime I try to load the game it shows me a error message saying: "impossible to load the aditional data file" in red font. Why does this happen? I already uninstalled Dofus and installed it again, but didn't work. Can anyone clarify what's wrong here? Is it a problem with servers? I've been getting this message since March 31.

--Help on Selecting Characters--

Everytime I try to log in all my characters are dimmed and you can't select them. I don't know what to do and have know idea why they just randomly did this. Please help! I would like to play the game sometime soon.


 * The Rushu server has just experience a hardware failure. This is causing the problem with dimmed characters. See [] for the official announcement from Ankama. --TaviRider 16:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

--messed guilds--

whats up with the guilds, i cant acces my guild and it tells me im not part of one, i was a guild member then i download and guild gone.... help?


 * There's a known problem with guild membership on Rushu. The problem will be fixed with tomorrow's reboot. See the official announcements on the Dofus forum for details. --TaviRider 16:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Items' Value
There needs to be a record somewhere of the different items and their general values. See eqecon.com for an example of what I'm talking about. Because there is no mechanic in place in the game for communicating to an entire zone, and most of the economy seems to work around benign merchants and not auctioning, there is no way to know what a fair price for an item is. Of course, values change with the rising levels of the general population of a given server and the availability of any certain item.

The question is whether this is the place to do it. A general value section could be added to each of the items and updated as necessary. -Sihren


 * See Talk:Market - Dashiva 08:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

In other words, you want to replace a free market economy with a system of price-fixing? Not with my cooperation. --Tatsujin-d 21:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Tatsujin, obvious not. He just wants a way to track items value better than a single statistic in a couple sellrooms that need to be traveled to in order to get a very vague and unexplained number. An example of why having a community page that somehow allows users to track general item prices is this:

Today I was in a group of people fighting Robbers for their Robber Daggers, Belts, Amulets, and Gangster Rings. A dagger dropped and someone other than myself got it. Another person in the group said "I'll buy it from you for 20kk. "(its easily worth 70kk) and the fellow who had it agreed. Then I said "That dagger is worth 70kk." Later a robber belt dropped and I got it, and I said "Holy crap these things are rare, its worth over 100kk." (It was worth 15kk). Someone said "I'll buy it from you for 80kk!" I said, "No thanks, but I already have one of these but I dont have a dagger. I'll trade it for the dagger that dropped earlier." The guy with the dagger gladly traded his 70kk weapon for my 15kk belt.

Well ok, that wasnt so bad....for ME. But just being able to look at a website to see GENERAL PRICES would really help a lot of people out. No, no one is asking for a "fixed market economy." Just a quick and dynamic way to see the general value of a item you've never seen before while you are out in the woods hunting with a group.
 * Yeah the idea is great how to achieve that its the problem, because prices can change as fast as an update or a new discovery of a hidden recipe for example the now renamed gobball head gear when i started playing its price was non lower than 70k kamas and go up to 200k kamas, the leek pie scroll in my time the prices when i started to look where around 300k kamas, the problem is to keep it out and the prices is subjective as people wants to sell faster their items so they put a cheaper price if each people does that in 1 day lets say 10 people at the end of the day the price of an item can go 1k down or more, the only things that have a more fixed price is the ones that are obtain by buying to npc the ones that are obtain by exchange to npc depends on the price of the materials and that depends on how much available the materials are, and how hard are to obtain, and then depends on how hard is to get to the NPC so unless you can build a page that will scan all the server obtaining the prices and compiling them in a database to get and average its impossible to keep a real decent track of the prices unless you invest a LOT of time in trying to do so but will be only helpful for a couple of months then you will get tire and quit. And the problem here is also vandals minor vandals can be modifying prices slowly until the price is way off--Cizagna (Talk) 19:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

More help
Hi my guys zigfin and i have a error cant load language fill i need help!

what i make when put error: can't load language file?


 * Try Dofus Technical Support - DarkStorm 09:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

this is a test edit please delte this after

Spanish?
somehow the whole wiki buttons became spanish??? anyone knwo hwo to fix this? -Tarquin-Mitzi

already found the fix: logout and login. :D -Tarquin-Mitzi

Hum...but what if you're not logged in? I happen to be a reader of this Wiki, and don't log in or out, yet I still see all the menus, etc in spanish... 64.228.176.107

I am getting the same thing, it is bizzare. - MrMunchie

I can't even upload an image... and i wanted to update a few pages ~_~ -Tarquin-Mitzi

I've done a lot of looking around in the Wikia help pages to no avail - maybe the global language of the wiki has been changed? It might be something that an administrator needs to update - Tori 9:52am PST 6/9/06


 * Probably just a typo (en -> es) made during an update. Looks fine to me now, at least. - Dashiva (talk 11:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Popular lvl, hunting areas
We need a section that has all the popular places were people lvl, or get items drops.

like were u have the best chance to find 8 gobs


 * It's possible, but it depends very much on the character's class, characteristics and equipment. Because of this, I think the right place for this information is in the guild guides for various classes, such as Ecaflip/Chance. --TaviRider 22:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Advertising
As many of you have noticed, there is a problem with the google text ads which Wikia has very little control over. Gold-selling sites are frequently popping up in the ads which I understand is very annoying for this community as well as violating fansite guidelines that other games like Guildwars has. We don't choose who is advertised, though we can block sites once we're aware of a problem with them and I've blocked dozens of these after Dofus fans told me about them. However, what I've found frequently is that as soon as one gold-selling site is blocked, another one pops up. It seems really impossible to remove them all. So, perhaps we need to find an alternative to google text ads. What I've proposed for the guildwars wiki is to use the sort of ads that guildwars.com uses. They have images linking to specific companies which I assume they pick, instead of text ads that might be about gold-selling. Do you want me to look into experimenting with these sort of ads instead for this wiki? It would mean each ad could be pre-approved and we would never choose to approve a gold-selling scam. Angela talk 05:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Angela! That would be awesome. Or something like that. -SirChar Nov29


 * We're trying valueclick ads here now which shouldn't contain any gold-selling. Let me know if there's any problems with this. Angela talk 08:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you Angela I'm happy this is finally resolve in a less wearing off way. --Cizagna (Talk) 19:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Sellrooms
Ive found alot of stuff in the sellrooms some wierd things like: Mega-man stuff (hat,cape,belt,boots) Piwi stuff: Like Red Piwi headgear or something and pink and so on... and Tournament wand, and other GM stuff like GM pets like Over-powered bow meow's.... Check it out sometime, its funny

New main page layout
The community's input is requested regarding a proposed draft layout for the main page. The discussion is going on at Dofus:Community Portal/New Main Page. Everon 23:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The page is at Main Page/Everon and there's also discussion taking place on that page's talk page. - Dashiva (talk 15:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I took a bold step as I did not get negative comments and did some changes to the main page. Drop your comments. There are more changes coming in the future as soon as I work out the distribution bugs. --Cizagna (Talk) 00:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Main page open to editing?
The main page seems to be open to editing, is this a mistake or intentional? --Quicksand 13:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Intentional. It is only blocked to anonymous or newly registered users, to minimise vandalism. //Peet TM 14:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, I guess that explains why it wasn't open earlier, because I was a newly registered member. Thanks for the clarification :) --Quicksand 17:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Double click "feature"
The entire site seems to have a so called "feature" that allows you to double click on any page to edit it. I find this extremely annoying and not at all useful. I'm often trying to copy some text from a page, when all of a sudden it brings me to the edit page, which is not what I wanted at all. I really think this "feature" should be removed, as anyone can easily hit the edit button at the top of the page.

Also, sorry, I couldn't find a better place to put this than Talk:Main Page --Quicksand 04:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have heard of that feature but i have not activate it, or know anything about it, i will try to find something tomorrow but i have been double clicking on a page and im unable to edit it, unless i got to he edit tab --Cizagna (Talk) 04:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It's a setting in Special:Preferences, under 'Editing' called 'Edit pages on double click (JavaScript)'. Just uncheck that box, and it's gone. //Peet TM 08:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Wakfu
I have been playing dofus for over a year now, and this wiki has helped me out greatly. But i was wondering, any plans on making a wakfu wiki?
 * Some other people have already set up one on Wikia here: Wakfu Wikia //Peet TM 11:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Oooh, k, thanks ^^--Marsxx 02:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Small/Minor Edit/change
I have edited the stubs so that the there is only 8, as 13 meant that there was a 5-6 line gap which was EMPTY so i edited that. Also afterwards i included a quicklinks template, which i myself made. This quicklinks template is just to make it easier to get to 8 of the main headings on the page. Please dont remove as it took time to perfect both boxes!

Thanks,

WHY?
why did u get rid of my quick links?


 * You know why - I told you on your talk page. If you want more details, I can add that your Quicklinks templates are bugged. So please, discuss this with Cizagna who knows better about the wikia interface things. --Lirielle 13:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

um... links with no pages?
I have a slight problem with your HEADER... links like "Questions" and "Contents" have NO links... It seems a bit pointless to have links to pages that dont actually have any content...

this is a bug? mistake? or are you intending to put something there... If you intent to put something there then in the meantime something with content should be added...

Thanks, --Kiriath 19:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Main Page Header.
I think the main page header is great, near perfect. I just think that there could be a few changes... As i mentioned above some of the links dont link to pages, you just get a "edit this page" thing.

And finally i think the links (like areas, scrolls) etc should be changed(well some of them). For example why would you need scrolls on the list? it should be replaced with something more meaningful( i suggest profession or class)

Thanks, --Kiriath 09:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)