User:Galrauch/Archive 1

Runes
First of all, thanks a bunch for all the good work you're doing.

May I just ask you to avoid creating page for existing but renamed items? E.g. all the runes are there but have been renamed from Rune XX to XX Rune. See User:Lirielle/NameChanges for a list. All internal links have been mass-changed through a bot, but the final steps (moving the page and adding history) are still to be done on some pages. --Lirielle 13:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Project
You asked what kind of specific contributions you could offer. The wikia badly needs a global overhaul of the NPC pages. This would imply applying the correct template, fill in some information and add pictures. Just let me know if you're ok and I'll give you some guidelines. --Lirielle 12:51, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for accepting the project.
 * You'll find the list of NPCs on my user pages. I suggest using User:Lirielle/NPCs as a base and as a checklist. The idea would be, for a start, to update all existing pages.
 * Must do:
 * update template to npc2 (see Template:Npc2 if needed)
 * Note: npc 'options' are listed on my user page
 * Should do:
 * organise pages based on the option list (i.e. a section per option: Talk, Buy/Sell...)
 * when applicable, add a standardized Quest section ('assigns', 'features in')
 * Optional:
 * add pics (let me know if you feel like it)
 * add dialogs
 * Notes
 * All categories are automatic - just be sure to use the correct names for areas and subareas
 * A good idea would be to create a 'skeleton' on your user page or on User:Lirielle/Style Guides/NPC Pages (see the other style guides for examples)
 * I'll monitor your edits and let you know if I forgot something ;), but see hereunder.
 * You are welcome to suggest and apply improvements. From now on, the project is YOURS. If you want to change the approach, just be sure to get the consensus. (Template changes should be discussed with sysops beforehand.) With all your edits so far, I'm confident that the project is in good hands. Thanks.
 * I suggest you create a user page such as User:Galrauch/NPC Project to discuss the project.
 * --Lirielle 13:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Well i have seen that you have finish with the names so think you can call this project finish? or there is still work to do here? --Cizagna (Talk) 22:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'd say it should all be finished. Of course the NPCs still need a lot of work (De stubbing, checking all the informatiuon is actually correct etc.), and I've probably made a few errors myself here and there, but on the whole all NPCs should be NPC2 minimum now. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Silf the Greater Bherb.png|50px]] 11:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

NPCs
When updating NPC pages: --Lirielle 23:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Be sure not to delete valid information (use eg. notes if the information doesn't fit elsewhere) - eg. Foreman Ikure
 * Be sure to use to correct subarea names - eg. Incarnam npcs, Bish Fone
 * The majority of the time when I'm updating the NPC's all I do is 'recycle' the information. By that I mean just place the information that was already on the page into the NPC2 format. For Bish Fone it stated his loc as 'Fish Hut' so when I updated it I assumed that the loc was correct and just put that onto the new template. In future I will try to double check the information on the pages. Galrauch 17:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Monster Pages
Pls. refer to User:Lirielle/Style_Guides/Monster_Pages. Thanks. --Lirielle 18:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Pls. leave the ' ' marker alone.
 * Very short descriptions of spells are accepted. Pls. feel free to make them summary, but do not delete them.

Sellers
Pls. note that we do not record individual Sellroom tenants ('Astrubian Alchemist Seller' etc.). Thanks. --Lirielle 12:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Monsters
When editing monster pages, be sure to follow the guide. In particular, do not use the monsterpic but the monsterpic2 template. Thanks. --Lirielle 03:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * With those monster pages (some minotoror creatures if I'm not mistaken), I was just updating the area nothing more. Although I should fully update the pages I find it very consuming and as of such I will often leave the majority of the page alone.Galrauch 17:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Uba Tesse
I have add the location of this npc but there is non blank for what its sells, could you add that it sells Big Phial for 10 kamas. --Cizagna (Talk) 16:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks --Cizagna (Talk) 16:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem :). Galrauch 21:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi, sorry for replying so late, I'm pretty busy ATM.

We are currently not officially looking for admins, but I feel we are in need for one. Talk to Cizagna and see if he feels like calling for candidates. --Lirielle 15:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Dike Tarak
Can you take care of Dike Tarak? TIA --Lirielle 07:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * K I'll have a look at it. Galrauch 15:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The Village NPCs
This night I've be wandering about The Village and updated all NPCs. Some are still missing their dialogs, though. All pics have been added and I had to rename a few NPCs based on IG experience. I did NOT update your checklist. --Lirielle 09:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK I'll update it when I can. I may have to restart it, what with the changes made to my Style Guide Galrauch 09:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Edits
Hi, I did some edits, I hope you don't mind? I compared them with my own expierence and checked some on the game.

Also, what is your name on shika? I'm playing there too Backpacker 16:18, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Ok! Thanks for that. Polepe 18:30 Monday 2nd June

Safeguard?
Why are you taking the safeguard of and putting the name of the actual NPC?, i dont see whats the issue since in came the page gets moved/rename you will not have to update the links --Cizagna (Talk) 01:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

For example this one --Cizagna (Talk) 01:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Your Help Is Required
I need you to help me on this A.S.A.P. since we only have 2 days before im force to put the navigation links as how i have it for more info read here --Cizagna (Talk) 04:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations
Due to your dedication to fighting vandalism in this wiki I have granted you RollBack powers, its just a faster/easier way to revert vandalism. For disagreements on pages its always better to use undo or even discuss it at talk pages. Use this new power with wisdom. --Cizagna (Talk) 18:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool thanks ^^. Perfidous T E C [[Image:Silf the Greater Bherb.png|50px]] 19:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Your Signature
If you want to have "Email User" red in your signature, instead of E try  E. This should work a lot better (And I've recolored my signature to show you how it's done). Adventures OfA  Squirrel zzz04:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah ok I'll have a go at that, atm I'm just having a mess around witj my signature, I'm still pretty useless in terms of coding so thanks for the advice. Perfidous T E C [[Image:Silf the Greater Bherb.png|50px]] 08:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I just noticed that the coding in your signature didn't seem to look right, so I thought I'd point it out to you. I only know what I've learnt from other people or looking around, but I have picked up quite a few things here and there. [[Image:Squirrel_SquirrellAdventures.png|20px]]AdventuresOfASquirrelz z z 08:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)(MyRealSignature)


 * it changes the color of the text but the problem is that its a link so there is an inherit rule from the CSS, Squirrels signature is done by modifying a the "font" been little more specific and less global than "color" outside the link. For this link to work, the link must be  (clue: the color tagging its inside the link not outside) thought avoid to use red for links, remember red means the page does not exist on links --Cizagna (Talk) 14:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: PNG
Hihi :) Im using crappy program with those pictures and it doesen't want save my files format called png. It save my files to format PNG. I thought that they are same thing, but... pictures does not work without changing png to PNG :) I hope that you understand what do I mean. Czacha 19:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The naming by your program doesn't matter. On a page with a missing pic, click on the red link. On the upload page, locate your pic on your pc and you're done. The file is automatically named as is expected. --Lirielle 00:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It does not matter if your program saves it as PnG or pNg or any lower or big caps, when you are uploading a picture it has 3 boxes, 1.- the one where it the address in your computer 2.- how the file is going to be save at the wiki and 3.- space for you to add a short description of what you are uploading.
 * once you have done the 1st one (look for your file) the 2nd would be fill (unless you click on the red link as lirielle explain) after the 2nd is fill you can alter your PNG for png and it will be save at the wiki as lowercaps --Cizagna (Talk) 17:34, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

New Categories
Watch out with the new categories you are creating many of the ones i have from templates are copy paste from the place i originally copy the initial code since we dont have a starting base of categories to browse down our community pages most of the categories you are creating are uncategorized for proper navigation.

Also creating links just so they are not red is a mistake that we have already seen by User:Tildar that he created a lot of duplicate pages because they where red links intead of checking if they already existed due to a name change

--Cizagna (Talk) 14:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah sorry about that, I should've. I'll have to have a look through the pages, see which are dupes etc. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 14:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Why The Substitution?
I see that you constantly substitute for the name of the page. why you do that? since its easier to maintain when the page is automatically modify by the Magic word than having to go manually due to a name change to correct those links


 * Example 01
 * Example 02
 * Example 03
 * And so many others

--Cizagna (Talk) 00:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * As has already been mentioned somewhere, with the NPC code for areas (See The Deep Moon Jungle) and the automatic NPC list, having #Talk|Talk would link to Deep Moon Jungle Talk, rather than to Kannibal Chef's Talk, I'm aware it makes it easier for maintenace purposes, but it messes with the area pages. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 15:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah ok i see this can be manage template side and DPL side, i will keep it in mind when I decide to go into deep with NPC template and pages --Cizagna (Talk) 19:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Ankama Lottery
Pls. can you have a look on the changed Ankama Lottery and the new Tofu Token page before I go on adding similar pages? Are these useful? Would you suggest changes in layout, wording, etc. Please post your comments on their respective Talk pages. TIA. --Lirielle 14:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Spelling
Can I please ask you to double-check your edits for spelling mistakes? We all commit typos and other spelling mistakes, but unless you suffer say from dyslexia, I'm sure you can do better. TIA. --Lirielle 10:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try to be more careful in future, just more often than not I don't tend to notice my spelling mistakes. I'm a pretty crummy typer (As my guild should know). I'll try to slow down in future, as I'm probably typing to fast. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 11:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you seem to make more spelling mistakes than any other registered user I have noticed. There is a reason why we have "Show Preview" (very useful for preventing red links). Also, you may want a spell checker for more obvious mistakes. Firefox comes with a free one! (Obvious plug for Firefox)[[Image:Laughing.png|25px]][[Image:Squirrel_SquirrellAdventures.png|20px|This is what I used to look like, as a squirrel]] Adventures OfA  Squirrel z z z11:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Spelling
Regarding spelling: Please, please, please, use the ''' Show preview  button. ''' Adventures OfA  Squirrel z z z( 3 Days to go! )12:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Drop List Template
Can you have a look at Template:Droplist and its talk page? TIA --Lirielle 09:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * New suggested templates are Template:Dropbox3 and [[Template:Dropboxrow3. I've implemented them as a test to Sapphire Dragoss. Comments welcome. Pls. do not use until a go-ahead is given by sysops. Thx. --Lirielle 11:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Awnser To Your Question

 * Quote from User talk:Galrauch/NPC Project

Why isn't this deleted yet? I've long since finsished with it, so as far as I can see this is just a wasted page. Is it being kept for some reason? Could it please just be deleted, I can't stand having wasted pages, especially if they're under my User Name. PerfidousT E C 10:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Because im the one that does this sort of maintainence work and i have been absent lately --Cizagna (Talk) 21:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * K thanks for letting me know, just it had been quite a while since I finished it, and as I'm sure you can see I'm a bit off a delete a holic, can;t stand to see my pages wasted :P. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 09:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Delete Tag Habit
Please do not blank pages when adding the delete tag, I cant judge the reasons as valid when the page has been blank. Only exceptions are for pages created with info that could hinder the wiki like porn or kama sellers or hacks to dofus. --Cizagna (Talk) 02:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * So you can't judge whether a page like Kryst O' Ball maged needs to be deleted without checking it's history. It's a junk page I see no reason to have any of it's information on the Wiki, they're just wasted pages I don't see where the issue comes in, between the time that I blank/delete tag them and they are eventually deleted no ones going to look at them so where does the issue arise? I only do this to pages which I deem to be junk, I haven't done so (Or at least can't remember) doing it on any of the builds which I've deleted tagged/cleaned up. I'll try to remember in future, if it helps clean up all those junk pages which even as I write this still exist then I guess I may as well. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 10:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats sort of obvious since in its title it says:
 * where is the concensus? it was created when not all where crafable, have we decide how we are going to work all this? does it hurt us to have it?
 * so it says rings of satisfaction, can this be compacted and put on a talk page where it could belong?
 * need to see is some where has been noted the introduction of the keys
 * spelling can be easily corrected
 * the issue comes because I cant blind fold delete pages just because they are tag with "delete" i still have to read the reason and evaluate by checking the page. Very crappy guides (like have nearly nothing) i will delete instantly the rest requires at least 3 votes/request at minimum, i have to evaluate if any of the info is useful enough to be put in another/proper place --Cizagna (Talk) 06:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose you have a point, though regardless of the spellings that Feca guide was appaling, I suppose there may be certain redeeming qualities in some things. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 09:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Class Builds
You've been working a lot on improving builds lately, thx for that. Forum discussion on the formal procedures has been suspended for no known reason, but, in the meanwhile (a while ago), I've started implementing a new template to help tracking and listing builds. It has no impact on the display, it justs add fields we can use for DPL tables. I wondered if you could help me with this project? See for some details and let me know what you think. TIA --Lirielle 07:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, the names were temporary for the builds and I did not add a link to the actual build page until I was finished building them. Unfortunately what I had just added over the past ten minutes did not get placed into the build list due to the redirecting of the files. --Stillgrave

New Project?
You asked if I had specific jobs to be done on the wikia. The short answer is yes, I do have several projects in progress, and probably a few more to start ;). I'll try to find some time tomorrow to come with more specific suggestions. It may depend on the game information you have access to. --Lirielle 23:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've started documenting my projects/to dos on the User:Lirielle/Projects page. A suggestion is that you look after the set update project? (I can take care of the language links) --Lirielle 11:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I should have mentioned, the date field in the status template is for the date when the page is/was last checked and updated, not the release date. Also, this date should not be changed when minor changes are brought to the page, only when it has been checked again with the community pages. The objective is to be able to track down pages that may need an update. --Lirielle 15:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Kokoko
Just to be sure, what's your source to say that they don't cast bigkokoko anymore? TIA --Lirielle 15:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * My friend spent 14 hours solid farming for Kokonut Slices the other day, he never saw it cast once. Less it needs a buff of some sort, then it's no longr cast by them. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 18:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi, you are now part of the Administrator team. Remember that you are still another member of this community and that you have to think twice when you are doing your Administrative duties. As in the past if you meddle in to a dispute is better that another Sysops resolves the issue rather than you, so its more impartial the decision. I know you are egger to delete pages, but remember to check if there are any pages linking to that page, other way you may see me restoring your deletes, and guides requires at least 3 votes supporting the removal. --
 * Gratz for your promotion. --Lirielle 00:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Great Tofu Summoner Fairywork.png|25px]]Congrats, Galrauch! [[Image:Great Crackling Multicolored Fairyworks.png|25px]][[Image:Squirrel_SquirrellAdventures.png|20px|This is what I used to look like, as a squirrel]] Adventures OfA  Squirrel z z z11:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, Galrauch :)) [[Image:Storm_troopers_logo.png|20px]] Eisttekcir C Z A 11:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ^^ Thanks. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 16:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

MSN
I was sending an email but i see you have not set an email or configure so you dont receive emails. if you have, please send me an email with your MSN email so i can add you, --
 * I enabled email so you should be able to send me them now. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 16:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yesterday I send you an Email with my msn contact. still waiting for answer if you have or not. -- 20:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sent you a message about it. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 20:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Stunned Tynril
Look like you accidentally deleted the Drops section? --Lirielle 00:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the Community Website doesn't list anything dropping from the Tynrils except from Perfidious, so they either don't or just have a low chance or something (Or the Community Website is wrong, though the things don't drop as much as you would expect from four things). PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 16:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Makes sense. --Lirielle 02:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Gear
Hi. Long time ago I made Gear/Costume pages. I made also Crahish gear, but accidently forgot to put G. Right one is Crahish Gear. Can you change it for me, please? :)  Eisttekcir C Z A 16:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. You can move pages yourself though, just need to Delete Tag the old Redirects. PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 20:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Page Deletions
As Cizagna warned ;), before (or at the same time as) you delete a page, you must make sure that it is not linked from another page. (Use the "What links here" menu item.) This is why Cizagna is currently restoring some pages.--Lirielle 17:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Seem so. I'll remember in furute to remove links before a page is deleted (Though some of the pages I was removing links as I went along). PerfidousT E C [[Image:Osamodas-Icon-Spell-Summoning of Red Wyrm.jpg|20px]] 17:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Its to save double work, because if we find the red links we need to check why the page was deleted and where it was move unless the move was deleted also, and with all that info then go all the way back and fix the link(s), and since you are already checking the page and know the reasons its faster for you than for us to recheck all what you have done --

Deleted redirects
For recently created redirects... the older the page the more time this redirect has to be. lets take the currently Sadida/Strength/1


 * Original name Sadida/Strength  2006-01-09
 * 2nd name Sadida/Strength1 2007-05-02
 * 3rd acutal name Sadida/Strength/1

This build has been for 3 years how many pages outside of this wiki will link for it?, how many pages outside of this wiki Sadida/Strenght1 will link to that since near 2 years ago?... with the first change there was no issue because the pageSadida/Strength gave a link to the new Sadida/Strength1, those are stuff you must considerate also, the newer there are the easier to be move around the older you must leave a trace for old outside wiki links to work with. Also dont forget that talk pages that you delete you must check also for "what links to them" --