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  • Hello,

    I've just realised I accidentally created an extra page with similar name.
    Sleepwalk on the Wild Side - this achievement is the right one;
    Sleepwalking on the Wild Side - this one is an extra duplicate page I created due to typo confusion in the Achievement#Vulkanian Archipelago page.

    Is it possible to delete the obsolete page (Sleepwalking on the Wild Side)?

    Thanks!

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  • Can you please rename the item Chunky Leaves as "Chunky Leaves" and the plant as "Chunky Leaves (plant)", so that the item will so up correctly on it's respective item page? I tried to do it myself but I don't think I have access to renaming pages. Also, can you please add transparency to the item itself? I uploaded it already.

    Thank you — Icejunito (talk) 22:36, June 16, 2020 (UTC)

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    • Renaming done.

      Transparency, no. There is too much in the background to easily "background erase" (only way I can reliably make it transparent is to delete what is unwanted).

      Dofus's tooltips/dialog boxes are partially transparent, so any screenshots of them will include the textures/dulled colours of what is behind.
      You need to take your captures against a solid background to have a chance of getting rid of the unwanted grey.
      I tend to take them against the black border around my haven bag (since there don't seem to be any pure white backgrounds) but most inside rooms would work if you're in an area which bans haven access.

      If you really want that one to be transparent and don't have any image editing software that will let you do it yourself, upload another capture with a solid background and tag me again.
      Even if the quest item is gone from your inventory you should be able to get it from your questbook (either tick "See completed quests" or just search on the quest name).

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    • Gotcha. Thanks a bunch for the info :)

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    • Oh, and all users have access to renaming pages (unless an individual page is manually locked), it's just files/images that are globally restricted to admins only (on all fandom wikis).

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  • Hi, I have a question regarding the dialogues (with NPC) in quest pages. I wonder if it's worth to add every single dialogue to the quest page? I mean absolutely every dialogue with every NPC involved in a certain quest, including all dialogue options, even those that do not update the quest (but which are unique to the quest).

    In a sense, dialogues are not needed for the purpose of explaining the quests, but I feel that wiki encourages adding dialogues with its "Missing Dialogue" template. However if absolutely all dialogues are added to the quest page then the page could get unnecessary long (for example Star Ski and Dutch in which I have added most of the dialogues that I could at that moment), not sure how convenient it would be for the wiki users.

    Thanks!

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    • Nah, it’s usually not necessary to add every bit of dialogue.

      Just the parts where it shows the right way to accept or move forward in the quest.
      Or when the conversation has instructions about how to proceed that aren’t copied to the actual quest step.

      I usually remove the ‘conversation’ tag once the starting dialogue is in place, unless there is an empty box further down the page.
      You also don’t need to add the dead ends to the starting text, just the parts that actually accept the quest and explain what to do.

      If someone cares enough about all the flair text, they can actually read it while playing through the quest, instead of skipping everything like a lazy person.

      If there is something uniquely interesting feel free to add it (or if they are a quest-only NPC add all their dialogue to the NPC page).

      Edit: The parts in Star Ski and Dutch where the conversation has different options depending on how much of a particular stat you have is definitely worth having though.

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    • OK, I think I got the idea, thanks!

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  • Thanks, I was looking for dozen of minutes for solution of a proper spoiler. Found one that didnt work with queststep... couldnt find ur solution in preps on site, maybe worth to add this in examples?

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  • Why you reverted my edition on that page ?

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    • There is already a big yellow and green box at the top of the page that says the achievement is removed.

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  • Hey man I was wondering if you guys have some sort of Discord or something going for the Dofus Wiki contributors. I'd love to try and coordinatate with you guys. I've been playing Dofus and adding to wiki more than ever with the whole stay at home order. Let me know. I'm Pizza-boytoy on Echo if you want to contact in game. 

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    • No, there's nothing formal set up beyond the occasional PM conversation.

      Saiftey tried to set one up when Discord first appeared, but he deleted it a couple of years ago due to nobody using it.

      There's not usually a lot that needs to coordinate. As anyone can edit, pages don't really belong to any one person. Just add add a 'stub' tag to any quests you can't finish work on soon, and keep the 'Work In Progress' template for things you will finish in a day or two.

      The Dofus:Templates page has a mostly up to date page layout for most types of pages. There are usage instructions for some of the more complicated templates available on the template pages e.g. Template:Queststep.
      It is preferred to use the spoilers built into queststep these days, rather than use the old standalone 'spoiler' template. The old style is too hard to read on most mobiles or tablets.

      If you come up with a new idea on layout that is significantly different or want to make a change in a template, make a new page for testing and copy the original template to a new name. Don't try and edit the existing templates. Fandom seem to have dumped the Sandbox concept, but it's easy enough to delete a page that is no longer required (rather than breaking things with unannounced template changes).

      If you do need to talk, I do use the same name on the Dofus discord.

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    • Cool thanks for the info brotha, see you around

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  • Sorry to bother again. I added trivia to Where is Charblie?, but this particular bit of trivia includes a very serious topic... It might be too disturbing or inappropriate for some users? I'm not too sure...

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    • It is what the quest is referencing. If someone is going to be disturbed it's just as likely to happen if they suddenly realise what the dialog is about while doing the quest.

      If anything, this is a warning so that there may be less of a sudden realization.

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  • Hey, I just recently edited The Melody of Music so that it would look similar to the other quest pages. For the most part I just filled in some info, made it more compact and removed a lot of empty space. The problem is I was a little uncomfortable editing this person's work, especially so considering this page was a little more recent and the creator has done a lot more hard work than I have. The page was fine for the most part, I'm just a perfectionist and I did not really understand why all of that empty space was there... So I guess I just want to make sure this particular edit was justified before I continue.

    I'm mostly concerned about the empty space, I think they may just prefer the way it looks with the empty space, while I prefer the more compact look. I do not want to impose my style, but I do like consistency, so I'm not entirely sure what the right move is in this case...

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    • Extra whitespace is irritating to scroll through, especially on a tablet or phone, so it’s almost always better to get rid of it.

      I have a vague recollection that the site templates may have been having some issues at the time that page was done, so that may have been why he had it a bit more spread out. Or those edits might have been done via the Visual Editor, which usually screws up spacing.
      His more recent pages don’t tend to be spread out like that.

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  • That look supercool, thanks for the edit :D, my first post. Getting better with this ^^

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  • Would you be interested in receiving assistance with converting your infoboxes to the new portable type? They work much better on mobile devices, and our data shows that about 20% of your page views come from mobile devices (which is well below average, to be honest). Let me know if you'd like some help, or if you have any questions.

    I notice that you're using DPL to generate dynamic content on some of your pages. Bravo and well done! I'm a big fan of DPL, so let me know if you have any problems or want to discuss ideas.

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    • Icons are not a problem, but what I'm envisioning would definitely require a bot run to remove the icons from the pages and rearrange the parameters in the infobox.

      Would it be okay to put the image of the item above the technical details? What is the typical size of item images, and can you get them wider than, say, 130px? (the little icons are saved as 512x512!) You have a lot of wasted space below the image that could be used for displaying the data and reducing the overall width of the infobox. I think you could even increase the font size a bit and still save on space.

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    • The easy-to-access item images are nominally 200x200, though there are a quite a few empty pixels surrounding the actual image. These we can (usually) download straight from Ankama’s website without trouble or needing to edit them.

      Any other size means accessing game files (technically a breach of ToS) and a huge amount of extra work as they are all embedded in swf files that simply have an integer as filename... and once you find the correct file, you still need to find the right frame and scale up to export it.
      The icons were grabbed many years ago when the game was less complex and not as obfuscated.

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